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  • authored by lefkenny
  • published Sat, Mar 30, 2002

Big Bad Wolf in Sheeps Clothing Deceived me

Remember all the propaganda by your union how important you are? Do you now feel that they were merely words disguised for a totally different AGENDA, the union's very own AGENDA? I listened to this tune several times and for me it says a lot about how I feel. The Big Bad Wolf in Sheeps Clothing Deceived me.

Just click once, sit back and watch it load. It will automatically repeat itself in a few seconds if you want to hear it again.

HAVE YOU EVER FELT THAT THE BIG BAD WOLF DECEIVED YOU

ABOUT UNIONS

  • posted by sleK
  • Sat, Mar 30, 2002 10:44pm

Bah!!
Freakin' audio drivers are bOrken again!
(embedded audio sucks anyways, but I like SamtheSham.)

:sigh:
reboot.

  • posted by weiser
  • Sun, Mar 31, 2002 9:04am

At least they aren't wolves in cheap clothing:

quote:


Effective 1, January 1995, a $250.00 clothing allowance will be paid quarterly so that all staff will have an appropriate uniform.


What's interesting is that the Local 1518 staff don't seem to wear uniforms.

quote:


uniform n.
1. a prescribed identifying set of clothes for the members of an organization, such as soldiers or schoolchildren.
2. a single set of such clothes.
3. a characteristic feature or fashion of some class or group.

- adj.
4. unchanging in form, quality, quantity, etc.; regular: a uniform surface.
5. identical; alike or like: a line of uniform toys.

- vb. (tr.)
6. to fit out (a body of soldiers, etc.) with uniforms.
7. to make uniform.

[C16: from Latin ćniformis, from unus one + forma shape]

- Čuni-formly adv.
- Čuni-formness n.


Y'know, it the Power Source is going to pay a grand a year to outfit the MRs in uniforms, shouldn't there be uniforms to show for the expenditure?

If they ain't goin' to wear uniforms, then they shouldn't be paid the grand per year.

  • posted by Richard
  • Tue, Apr 2, 2002 9:07am

Oh yes. If the Power Source pays for uniforms the staff should wear uniforms.


They would look great patrolling the stores, factories and warehouses.

Seriously, if the dudes are grabbing off a grand a year to buy "uniforms" but think that they are too cool to wear uniforms, then they should keep their mitts off the money.

The members shouldn't have to shell out $1,000 per year so the business agents can buy Tommy Hilfiger street clothes.

  • posted by weiser
  • Sat, Apr 6, 2002 4:53pm

At least you'd expect the MRs to wear clothes that have union labels. The UFCW has some shoe and boot manufaturers. Do the MRs spend UFCW money on UFCW shoes?

I agree, if the contract specifies the money is for uniforms then uniforms should be worn or the money stays with the members. Union label uniforms. Blue blazer with the UFCW embroidered on the pocket, grey slacks or skirts and white or blue shirts or blouses with UFCW Local 1518 embroidered on the pockets.

Wear them with pride!

  • posted by siggy
  • Sat, Apr 6, 2002 10:13pm

Buggars! Don't get me started on uniforms and the UFCW. TOooooo late!

Some of the 1518 MR's were on the executive that negotiated away company supplied uniforms in the '97 CA. Then if that wasn't bad enough they then lost an arbitration which put it in cement. Left us paying for the company wishlist. When they were done we got a one time $50 ($100) clothing allowance and continuous harrassment from the employer if our socks don't match. Juniors get diddly.

When juniors are hired, they are told that they have to wear a certain type of shirt and pants. Most don't understand that the have_to is a union_backed company add on.

To make this deplorable, the company just happens to have for sale, a supply of suitable apparel. You know stuff they tell new employees they have to wear.

Intimidation keeps the company looking uniform!


MR's get $1000 of the Power sources' money a yr. to dress up fancy and do lunch?

  • posted by weiser
  • Thu, Apr 11, 2002 7:09am

Oh they get their daily per deims to do the lunch bit. (supposed to be for parking meters and buying the Power Source coffees)

  • posted by siggy
  • Thu, Apr 11, 2002 7:56am

The Wearing Apparel language in the 1518/OFG agreement is another one of those blatant misinformation thingies. (just like the new employee arbitration exclusion)

The Power Source don't have a chance with d'noobs representing them.

Even tho the Labour code protects them, they have misinformed mr's and managers telling them it's in the contract. What employee is going to question that?

  • posted by harvardman
  • Sat, Apr 27, 2002 2:44pm

The wolf in sheeps cothing, a very common occurance in cupe, I think cupe and ufcw reps got together to breed this particularily nasty animal that can be frequently hear saying " oh! you have one of the best contracts" ," don't rock the boat", " this the best offer we could get you", what they really mean is we don't have time to address your concern, you are not important to us, the only thing we are concerned about is our time off and sucking the dues of the members dry.
Being a current cupe member and former ufcw member I can say that I have come accross this crap many times. The question is how do we get rid of the wolf in sheeps cloths????

  • posted by lefkenny
  • Sat, Apr 27, 2002 3:05pm

Welcome havardman. Welcome fellow brother.

aboutunions

  • posted by sleK
  • Sun, Apr 28, 2002 1:22am

quote:


The question is how do we get rid of the wolf in sheeps cloths????


Natural Selection!

Well, sort of. We'll help them extinct themselves!

Welcome to the forum harvardman!

CUPE and UFCW heh?
Poor guy! We feel for ya!
I'll bet that you have some interesting stories to tell!?

  • posted by harvardman
  • Tue, Apr 30, 2002 11:28am

thanks for the welcome aboutunions and slek. I read in the paper that canada safeway in manitoba is complaining about the contract the arbitrator imposed on safeway and ufcw. Safeway wanted employees to take a 5$/hour reduction. They didn't get it however the arbitrator has imposed a two tier pay scale. where the top rates for new employees will be 2$/hour less than the top rates for current employees. This seems to be a new trend in contract negotiations. I've notices this has happened to city of winnipeg employees and transit, where new employees are being sold out.
Safeway is still not satisfied and claims they will push of salary cuts when the contract expires in 2003.

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